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INDUSTRIAL ARCHAEOLOGY

No. 56June 2001
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Notes on Meetings

December-  Northampton IA (Geoffrey Starmer)
January --  John Ericsson  (Dr. Martin Gregory)
February -- Ships and Planes (Barry Eagles)
March -- Vulcan Bomber (Dr. Robert Pleming)
April -- Ancient Inventions  (Dr. Nick Thorpe)

Obituaries

Eric  Jones
Julia Steel

Moons Hill Structures-- IOW IAS
Twyford Waterworks -- Dr.Edwin Course
Tram 57 Project -- Angela Smith
Maritime Projects -- Jeff Pain
Stories of Old Northam --
British Built Ships in the High Andes -- Gerald Davies
Hythe Pier Renovation -- Angela Smith
Book Reviews --Gerald Davies
32nd. SWWIA Conference --Tony Daffey
SERIAC 2001 --Rosie Voller
Hampshire Mills Group --Johm Silman
Waterside Heritage --Graham Parkes
Survey on Travel Habits -- Dr.Rodney Hall
Miscellenia --   snippets; press items; chit chat
 
 
 
 

Rosies Notes 

 

Geoffrey Starmer of the Northampton IA Group was our December speaker who gave an interesting talk about the forming of the group during the early 1980s and the many changes over the years. It started with whatever took the members varied interests, much the same as our own group. The slides and stories told us about the town and countryside including the different styles in architecture of breweries and other buildings (outside only). Not only did we get a close look at furnaces, stone quarries, the extraction of iron ore, canals, water and wind mills and breweries, we saw and heard how the footwear industry started. Originally a cottage industry where the whole family generally worked in a tiny outhouse building at the end of the back yard, from about 1857 a large warehouse was built by Mosses Footwear Company with an eye to contain the shoemaker workers in one building much to their displeasure. However, the workers eventually accepted they could no longer work from home, and the hand method continued until the mid 1900s, when mechanisation took over. Surgical footwear continued to be made by hand into the late 1960s. Right up to when the government introduced Health and Safety rules, there were dreadful accidents including limb amputations within these busy dirty factories.

The New Year started with a fascinating talk by Martin Gregory whose interest in steam and the steam engine led him to research all that is relevant to the years of steam. Martin has been a member of SUIAG for over 30 years, as well as Honorary Chairman. His talk was about John Ericsson, the extraordinary engineer who was born in 1803 in a small village in Sweden. When he was 8 years old, his family moved to a small town in northern Sweden where his father managed to persuade some of the English engineers to teach his two sons the English language and the rudiments of engineering, giving John a good grounding which he put to use later in life. At 17 he joined the Swedish Army and was promoted to Captain at the age of 24 years. He later became interested in naval architecture and produced designs for large guns resulting in a move to London to get his ideas under way. Unfortunately John was very old-fashioned and blinkered more of a hands-on engineer using no proper drawn-up plans and all of his working life his inventions and ideas didnt work as well as they could have done. He teamed up with John Braithwaite and this partnership went quite well, so much that his impressive boiler and surface condenser was installed in the British Navys HMS Victoria. : However the boiler was so small that the artificers insisted it was removed. 

The next project was a vessel at Birkenhead, but the screw propeller wasnt developed properly, resulting in all sorts of problems, and after a heated exchange Braithwaite refused to invest in more projects. In 1839, after a year in England, he heard about a competition to build a steam locomotive for the Liverpool and Manchester Railway. This loco was completed in 8 weeks and named Novelty, but broke down during the trials, the winner being Stephensons Rocket. He then went to America and later built his secret weapon, the Monitor class turret battleship, for the U.S. government. He continued to work on various armament and domestic projects: however, although a few developed ideas were good, Ericsson got rough treatment from unnerved backers due to his stubborn refusal to follow through with drawings, etc. This hardy bachelor apparently had no interest in family life. It is said each morning he took a cold bath and believed in keeping his windows wide open all the year round. He died in 1889 after a short illness, and the U.S. government arranged for the warship Prince Baltimore to take his remains back to Sweden. It seems to me a sad story about a man who could have gone far, but for his intractable nature.

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Our February speaker, Barry Eagles, came back to talk about Ships and Planes. His first part of the talk was all about the chequered history of the local passenger ferries, paddle steamers and cross-channel steamers, most of which could be seen in Southampton waters. Thornycroft and Day Summers, Camper & Nicholson and Samuel White of Cowes were some of the several local ship builders, along with William Denny of Dumbarton and others who built these ships. Some of them were called up during WW2 and used as minesweepers or landing ships at D-Day as well as rescuing people from Dunkirk. One of the floating bridge slides brought back memories seeing the Number 9 bus waiting at Woolston. The second part of Barrys talk showed a selection of the smaller airlines and aircraft arriving on a typical day in Jersey and Guernsey, including the first jet airliner at Guernsey. Apparently Guernsey wouldnt allow jets until they decided to honour their own airlines in the 1980s:however they lasted for about two years before they went into liquidation. These airliners carried newspapers, early flowers and tomatoes airfreight from the Channel Isles. Of the various planes we saw, there were Viscounts, DC9s, Hawker Siddeley and Dakotas flying from parts of the British Isles including East Midlands and Scotland, etc. Some were used as air taxis during the 1950s and 60s when Shell would move their employees around the world.

Dr Robert Pleming was our March speaker who, using his impressive desktop computer, told us the story so far about resurrecting the Vulcan designed 50 years ahead of its time. Considered to be a milestone in British Aviation engineering with electronically powered controls enabling greater manoeuvrability, the Vulcan nuclear jet aircrafts first flight was in 1952 and was upgraded in 1956 to fly at 61,000ft ceiling and 30% increase in its range. The Vulcan went into RAF operational service in 1957 and, in all, a total of 134 were manufactured at Avro Woodford, Cheshire. The aircraft became extremely capable carrying out a marine reconnaissance role. Eventually tactics began to change from a high level nuclear role to a low level of 250ft during the 1950s/60s cold war Gary Powers time when it was modified to extend low level penetration and effectively jam radio controls therefore compensating the lack of defence armaments. The last and only time the Vulcan was used in anger was during the 1982 Falklands War, flying seven Black Buck missions during that time. 

Built in 1960, Vulcan XH558 was auctioned off for scrap by the RAF in 1993. The aircraft, together with remaining RAF spares, was purchased for £25,000 by a family firm, C Walton Ltd, who had already purchased an old U.S. base, once the longest runway in the world, Bruntingthorpe Airfield. In April 1997 it was decided to make one final effort to restore XH558 to full flight and with British Aerospace Boards decision to provide design support, Vulcan Operating Company was formed in July 1999. Having already spent £400,000 on technical feasibility investigation and marketing on this nonprofit making venture, another £1.7million is needed for restoration towards the flight permit as well as operational costs. Many companies associated with aerospace are giving their sponsorship and support as well as public support: however, VOC hopes to overturn Heritage Lottery Fund policy not to support restoration to flight projects due to the Vulcans uniqueness and British engineering excellence which is a heritage asset. The time frame from 2002 to 2006 when many events and air displays are planned; the significance of 2002 is the 50th anniversary of the first Vulcan, the Queens Golden Jubilee and the Commonwealth Games at Manchester. What an interesting lecture: SUIAG was only too pleased to give a donation to the Vulcan project. Weve since received certificate number 00707/03/01 confirming that SUIAGs name in full will be placed on the inside of the bomb-bay doors of Avro Vulcan XH558 (G-VLCN) on her return to display flying. If anyone missed the meeting and wish to find out more, the Web sites are: VOC is www,tvoc.co.uk and the 558 Supporters Club is www.vulcan558club.demon.co.uk

Dr Nick Thorpe was our speaker for April who, along with Peter James, wrote a book entitled Ancient Inventions, and this was his talk which covered a range of inventions including a series of metal rings called gimbals invented a good 2,000 years ago in Egypt and later in China; the idea was used as a stabiliser for a perfume burner used among cushions and in the 13th century was re-invented as an incense burner. Byzantine engineers invented war machines including a machine gun and catapult. What about an eight-sided inkpot, which was supposed to save the ink from getting on the sandals of scribes. Various claims and theories were made about spacemen developing the pyramids of Central America, which were devoted to the moon and sun. It was even suggested lost civilizations went round the world creating large buildings in the medieval period. Aveburys BC Silbury Hill was presupposed to have been built by people from outer space, and according to Nick the essential reason why these strange ideas were raised was that it was suggested people in the past were inferior to us and local population were not clever and rational enough to be able to work and create these buildings with their hands and basic tools of the day. However archaeologists are convinced there was an enormous number of people who were involved in building the pyramids, etc, however long it took, and the capacity of human intelligence has not changed over the years. Nick went on to tell us about another use for charcoal other than barbecues: apparently a frozen body found on the Austrian/Italian border dating back to 3,300BC was covered in various tattoos made from charcoal (considered as a mark of distinction), as well as a false beard made of animal hair buried with him. It would seem that later on the Church outlawed and banned tattoos in AD787. The talk was more about the ingenuity and skill of men, rather than the inventions they produced. Thank you, Nick, for an unusual aspect of IA, promoting man rather than machines. 


 

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Obituaries

Eric Jones

he Group was sorry to hear of the death of Eric Jones, who lived at Wimborne. He was a member for many years and joined us at meetings and the yearly IA trips. He had been in the Navy and was also a teacher. He was good company on these trips and always enjoyed a laugh at our sometimes silly observations of sometimes serious subjects. We were not represented at his funeral as we were not informed until after the event, but he will be remembered by his many friends in the Group.

Julia Steel

Also of Julia Steel, long time partner of John Christmas, who died of cancer. She accompanied John to many Rnof the Groups social events and took an interest in our projects.

What are the Moons Hill Structures?

 

(Report by the Isle of Wight Industrial Archaeology Society, December 2000)

Over the years there has been much speculation as to the origin of these oddities at Freshwater, frequently referred to as ice houses. The concrete structure is not part of the original site but was built over them when they were first excavated in the 1890s, at which time they were said to be pottery kilns or cremation ovens. site survey and examination of previous evidence suggests none of these theories are valid. 
The Original Excavation: The earliest known record of these structures is that of Robert Walker who discovered and excavated them in the 1890s. Walker was an ardent advocate of the theory of ancient Island tin trading. He published a booklet on this theory called a Phoenicia in Freshwater [Newport Reference Library] and recorded his excavation of this site in the booklet on the assumption it had Phoenician associations. Whilst the record of his excavation must be of interest in any analysis, his interpretation of what he found is less reliable. The ancient tin trading theory is now generally discredited. What he discovered were not structures as such but sculptured pits dug into the top of the bank with entrances through the front of the bank. There were no building materials used as the surrounding clay had fired itself into a secure terracotta wall. His enquiries revealed that, prior to earlier road widening, there were 2-3ft entrances. Following his excavation Walker built the concrete domes and bricked entrances to protect them from vandalism. Their final appearance was the result of some speculation on Walkers part as to the original sHis findings can be summarised as follows:-
        The pits filled with a stiff clay 
        In excavating the clay he found it interspersed with charcoal and containing pieces of curved terracotta wall.

        Near the bottom, a floor of crushed stone.

        In one pit, under the stone, a white waxy material interlaced with layers of charcoal. He says this materialtested as phosphate.

He suggests they are pottery kilns but explains the phosphate as cremated animal bones. He claims the domed tops are the original shape, based on the curved pieces of terracotta he found during the excavation. Walker associates the kilns with ancient tin trading by interpreting two marks on the interior as classic Greek lettering, and stating the excavated clay and stone were not local materials but from the same West Country direction as the tin source. He also interprets a chemical analysis of the internal vitreous surface as a sophisticated applied glaze.

Any antiquarian examining these pits would have to consider the possibility they were lime kilns. Walker does so but rejects the idea at the outset by saying the vitreous internal surface was in too good a condition to represent a lime kiln. Thereafter he was at pains to dismiss any further evidence pointing to lime kilns. The workers who originally widened the road told him they found common lime at the entrance to the kilns. He dismisses this as a misinterpretation due to their unscientific minds.

Site Survey

The suggestion they are ice houses is based on their appearance today rather than their original state. Our own survey quickly established they are not ice houses: there is no drain and the entrance is too low (subsequent road building has raised the base level of the entrance). They are almost certainly kilns of some sort. The interior has a vitreous coating, presumably as a result of repeated firing. The sides have a slight bowl shape, narrowing at the top and towards a ledge surrounding a furnace at the base. The dimensions of the western kiln as follows: 
Height from furnace to top (as originally discovered): 2.31m
Diameter at widest point: 2.51m
Diameter at base above ledge: 2.34m
Diameter of bowl (furnace): 1.83m 
The eastern kiln has similar proportions but is approximately 18% larger all round.

The immediate impression is that of lime kilns.

Walker rejected this possibility on the grounds the condition of the vitreous surface was not typical of a lime kiln. This condition arises in kilns as salts are extracted from the walls and fired into a glaze. The glaze varies depending on the wall material and firing temperatures. It was a little presumptuous of Walker to reject a possibility simply because he hadnt experienced this particular condition before. As lime kilns they probably had some sort of raised level above the bank closing the top slightly. The curved pieces of terracotta wall found when excavating the pits could represent a concaved top rather like the dome shape but with the top half cut off.

These kilns resemble the flare type of lime kiln. A grid would have been placed on the ledge at the base, arched upward at the entrance, and the chalk stacked up over this, loaded in from the top and up to the top. The fire would then have been ignited in the pit below this through the entrance (the draw hole). The draw hole may have been packed to control the draught and allow it to burn for four or five days.

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Chemical Analysis

The only material remaining in the kilns today is a deposit in the western kiln that is fused to the base below the ledge. We had this chemically tested and it proved to be limestone exactly as would be expected in a lime kiln. There is no trace of the material Walker identifies as phosphate. Our enquiries with experts in chemical composition suggest there is no white waxy material that could be identified as phosphate and cremated bone would not end up in that state. The most likely explanation is that, whatever the material was, it contained merely a trace of phosphate and this was misinterpreted.

Excavation

We excavated a 3 x 2 metre area on the bank at the rear of the western kiln. It revealed little. There was a 7cm deep level of disturbed clay below the topsoil and directly on natural level. This contained fine builders debris apparently associated with the building of the domes. Occasional lumps of chalk were present particularly near the base of the dome. In general it would seem the builders of the concrete dome left a very tidy site.Had these ever been pottery kilns, even the cleanest of sites could be expected to reveal the odd piece of waste material, particularly as the kilns were apparently excavated onto the bank. We found nothing, just as Walker does not record any. Its therefore difficult to see how these could ever have been interpreted as pottery kilns.

Period

In the absence of building materials or finds, dating them is not possible. Many local people were aware of Walkers excavations at the time yet apparently none could supply anecdotal explanation for the kilns. This would seem to put their latest possible date as the end of the 18th century or very early 19th century. Lime kiln design tells us little as such basic design remained unchanged for centuries. If they were created to provide field liming, rather than building material, they would be later rather than earlier. Farming lime kilns were not widespread until the 17th century. The earliest tithe map (1837) shows all the surrounding land to be arable farmland, suggesting a need for considerable liming.

The Derivation of Moons Hill

In the early 13th century lands in Freshwater were held in the name of William le Mone. The use of the French definite article, suggest this name refers to a professional or personal characteristic of a previous family member. Ifle Mone came from the French le Moine it thus translates as The Monk. Monastic connections with the area are still evident from Monks Farm and Monks Lane between Norton and Colwell Bay and probably derive from lands acquired by Beaulieu Abbey in the 13th century. Also Freshwater church was one of six island churches granted to the Abbey of Lyre shortly after the Norman Conquest. Of course the monk in question must have abandoned his discipline to produce a family. Although the Mone family name was no longer recorded in Freshwater after the 16th century, lands continued to carry the name, as in Mones, Mones Close and Mones Mead. By the end of the 18th century Mones had transmuted to Moons or Moon, and Moon Lane eventually became Moons Hill.
Conclusions: There seems little doubt these are lime kilns. A pair built into a bank is quite typical. This conclusion differs from that of Walkers but is not entirely at odds with what he found. Some anomalies might point to the kilns ending their life in a use beyond their original purpose. The considerable increase in farming lime kilns during the second half of the 18th century makes that period the favourite for these kilns, but its by no means certain.

 

Twyford Waterworks Trust --  Edwin Coursewww.hants.org.uk/twt

I have yet to read a Company Chairmans Report that stresses problems rather than achievements but, at the risk of incurring accusations of whingeing, this report draws attention to some of the problems faced at present by Twyford. Some projects are lucky, some are unlucky, but many experience a mixture of good and bad fortune.
Twyford falls into the latter category. For instance, the bankruptcy of Chatterley Whitfield Mining Museum delayed our promised funds for the restoration of the steam engine until Southern Water agreed to be our guarantors. Our lease was delayed by nearly two years by an arbitrary decision by a member of the Winchester City planning staff. We have raised funds and spent many hours of labour on a Babcock boiler, the oldest in Britain. On three occasions we have been promised assistance from Babcocks and each time the person concerned has either retired or been made redundant. Now we have been told that Babcocks are not going to help us. English Heritage are no longer disposed to help with our type of site and we no longer receive the helpful visits from their Inspector.

Southern Water, the owners of Twyford Works, have been taken over by Scottish Power and some recent developments have not helped us. For instance, we had a good working relationship with their Hampshire Division, which was based on Otterbourne. This has been largely superseded by control from their headquarters at Worthing who, on at least two occasions, have appeared to be unaware of our existence. The most recent example followed the banning of visits by the public to Southern Water premises, but unfortunately we were not told. In the event we found out just ten days before the holding of our well advertised Open Day, fixed nearly a year ago for April 29th. The resultant cancellation meant that we suffered loss of both goodwill and much needed income. In the long run this may lead to better links with Worthing, as the new Managing Director-incidentally a Friend of Twyford - has written apologising and for our part we are going to ensure that they receive our Newsletter. It should be stressed that Southern Water continues to help us with the maintenance of the works although, under the new régime, things are tighter.

As for other sources of funding for our new projects, such as the experimental firing of one of our unique lime kilns, or the return of Haines filters from Dorset, we have a depressing story of failure. For instance, the six landfill operators in our area, who can claim relief for any sponsorship which they provide, have either refused or not responded for the second year running. We believe that the reason that some of our neighbours have done so much better than Twyford is the quantity and the quality of their appeals and publicity, attributable to their full time staff.

How might we improve our position? We have some excellent volunteers but they are all overstretched to an extent that cannot continue indefinitely. For about 18 months the Chairman has undertaken the work of the Administrator, and the Deputy Chairman has acted as Treasurer. Fortunately, with judicious financial management, we have avoided falling into debt. A recent boost was the receipt of a supply of excellent publicity leaflets produced for us by the Hampshire County Museums service in exchange for some redundant stanchions.

On balance, success breeds success and it is not good policy to confess to having a difficult time. However, I do very much hope that this account of our difficulties will encourage somebody to volunteer assistance.

Stop Press!!! .Access for visitors to Twyford
The Trust was pleased to hear in the middle of May that the ban on visitors to the works has been lifted. This means that we shall be open again every Sunday from 11am until 4pm and the engine will be steaming on the first Sunday in every month beginning on Sunday 3rd June. The Open Day planned for Sunday October 7th will take place as advertised. We are hoping that this will enable us to regain some of the losses which we have suffered from the closure earlier this year.
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Tram 57 Project -- Report by Angela Smith 

There is very little to report this time as, for various reasons, we have had only a few working parties at Millbrook over the winter months. About the most exciting thing to happen was on March 20th when Merchant Navy steam loco co Canadian Pacific passed by on the railway line returning from its crew training run to Yeovil. Bill White was spotted on board, pointing up to our workshop, not realising that we were watching the train and could see him! He later said that he had been interviewed by television at Yeovil. We have had 3 groups of visitors since the last report. One man said that his grandmother had been on TCB 31 in Oxford Street on November 23 1940 when the air raid siren sounded, so everyone dashed to the nearest shelter. Which was just as well, because the tram was hit by an incendiary bomb and was the only Southampton tram completely destroyed during the war. There is a well-knownphoto of it in its burnt-out state. 
John Silman spotted a Daily Echo Articles for Sale advert under the Antiques section Tram seat from top deck of open-top Southampton tram, very rare item, £100 ono. It turned out to be a man from Holbury (just up the road from us) so we went to have a look at it. The seat was one of the 2-seater type with a swing-over seat back, but it was in very poor condition having been out in the open for a very long time. It was impossible to tell if it was from an ex-LCC car (6 of which Southampton bought from London in 1918 and converted to open-toppers) or one of the enclosed flat-roofed Preston types of 1919. The wood was mostly intact, but very sodden and not restorable, and the metal feet had rusted away from the legs. We decided it was not worth £100 and Nigel offered £20, which was refused. The advert has appeared over subsequent weeks and months with the price dropping to £80, but we havent heard from him since. He had said he might keep it and restore it.However, there was quite an interesting history attached to it. The seller (and his father) used to work at Fawley refinery and he said that the owner of the former café opposite Fawley railway station had bought a job lot of seats when the trams were disposed of in 1950. Most were put inside, but some stayed outside, this being one of those. He remembers them being there and said that about 15 years ago the café was closed down and the contents dispersed. He took two of the seats as a memento of Southampton trams as he lived in Bevois Valley as a child and remembered traveling on the trams, and the scrapyard where he said he and his mates used to go and help break up the trams! He recounted stories of icy, snowy days when there used to be a line of trams unable to get up the hill at Bevois Valley. One of the seats he had dismantled with the intention of restoring it (it was still in pieces in his shed) and, as he was planning to move away from the area, he was having a clear-out and offered the other seat, which had always been in the garden, for sale. Whether or not anyone bought it I do not know. We already have a perfect example of this type of seat at our workshop.
One final word - an appeal for a useable and electrically safe (we have annual safety checks on all of our electrical items) cylinder vacuum cleaner with attachments, if anyone is disposing of their old model. The one we have at the tram shed is getting a bit wheezy and doesnt pick up the dust too well now.

Down Pompey Way

Our friends of the City of Portsmouth Preserved Transport Group at Broad Street in Portsmouth have been having a nail-biting time recently with the ever-present threat of eviction from their museum, as the city council wanted to redevelop the site (yuppify its right alongside one of the old commercial docks). But now the council has given the bus group a long lease, so they can go ahead to seek lottery funding. As well as operational buses, there are also two former Portsdown & Horndean trams in the museum.ore celebrations, this time for government approval in May for the 9-mile light rapid transit system linking Fareham, Gosport and Portsmouth (via a tunnel under the harbour). Tenders are now being sought and it is hoped that the system will open in 2006, with work commencing possibly in two years.
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Maritime projects -- Jeff Pain

The Calshot

Very little new to report, the Southampton City Council still considering funding, etc. The future still probably tied up with the Marchwood project and they are hoping to put an application together for a Lottery grant.

S.S. Shieldhall

She came through the winter maintenance programme without any major problems. They had an MCA Inspection recently, including a full boat drill and everybody was saved!! At the time of writing she is due to sail to Weymouth on May 23rd for an underwater inspection (by divers), returning on the 25th in time for her first outing of the season on the 26th. The Solent Steam Packet Limited will be re-submitting a grant application to the Heritage Lottery Fund this year, asking for around £250,000, which means finding between £25,000 and 50,000 worth of partnership funding. wo initiatives are being implemented to raise the money. Firstly, they are running a Grand Draw during the summer, ticket sales limited to 10,000, the main prize being £1000. Also included in the prizes is a signed print by David Shepherd. Tickets are £1 each expect to have some for sale at the next meeting.Secondly although this is in the early planning stages at present they are working on a joint venture with The David Shepherd Conservation Foundation to put on a display of Davids paintings, followed by an evening presentation by David in November.
Keith Hamilton featured the ed Shieldhall in his weekly Memory Lane article in the in Daily Echo in February, reviewing the new book published about the ship called Shieldhall, the Story of a Clyde Banana Boat, written by members of the preservation group and priced at £3.95.
Shieldhall Excursion Programme for 2001

Sun 15 JulySouthampton dep. 10.30 to Poole ETA 16.00. Coach return to Southampton. £23.00 

Sun 22 JulyPoole dep. 11.00 to Southampton ETA 16.30. Coach return to Poole. £23.00 

Thurs 9 Aug Cruise to view Cowes Week, dep. Southampton 13.00, ETA 16.00. £15.50 

Cream tea included in price.

Fri 10 Aug Cruise to view Cowes Week, dep. Southampton 13.00, ETA 16.00. £15.50 Cream tea included in price. 

Sat 11 Aug Southampton dep. 11.00 to Weymouth ETA 18.00. Coach return to Southampton. £25.50

Thurs 16 Aug Cruise from Weymouth along the Dorset Coast, dep. 13.00, ETA 16.00. £15.50

Fri 17 Aug Cruise from Weymouth along the Dorset Coast, dep. 13.00, ETA 16.00. £15.50 

Sat 18 Aug Weymouth dep. 11.00 to Southampton ETA 18.00. Coach return to Weymouth. £25.50

Thurs 23 Aug From Southampton to the International Festival of the Sea, Portsmouth. Dep. 11.00, ETA 15.00. Coach return to Southampton.£17.50

Tues 28 Aug From IFOS, Portsmouth to Southampton, dep. 11.00, ETA 15.00. Coach return. £17.50 

Sat 1 Sept Cruise in the Solent, dep. Southampton 11.00, ETA 17.30. £23.00 

Sun 2 Sept Round the Isle of Wight, dep. Southampton 10.00, ETA 19.00 £27.50 

Tues 18 Sept Last visit of the liner Norway, half day cruise. Timings to be confirmed. £17.50 

Sat 22 Sept Cruise in the Solent, dep. Southampton 11.00, ETA £17.30.

Please note that departures are expected to be fromBerth 48, Southampton Docks. Timings are approximate and may vary. ETA is Estimated Time of Arrival. Hot meals are available on all of our sailings, the shorter trips will have snacks available all at reasonable prices. Tea, coffee and a fully licensed bar are available. Itinerary may alter due to local conditions, at the Masters discretion. Bookings can be made through Blue Funnel Cruises on (023) 8022 3278.

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Stories of Old Northam -- J. Francis Montgomery

May 9th, 1931: When I was filling up the census paper my mind was carried back to the numberings of other days, and I found that my name had been enrolled on eight of them. Of the first, in 1861, I have no recollection, but I can distinctly remember things which happened a few years after. How vividly we recall events which occurred to us in our early years, and fail to recall those which happen in later life. At a time like the census one naturally compares the town of our early life with it at the present day.
Although I was not born there, in the early sixties I lived in Northam-road. Walk from St. Mary-street along the south side, and you will come to an open space which belongs to the Southern Railway. It was originally intended to throw a bridge across to Clifford-street, but on the erection of St. Mary-street bridge the idea was abandoned, and the ground in my time was cultivated by the signalman of the adjacent signal box. I lived in the adjoining house towards Northam. When I stood there the other day and looked around memory waved her magic wand, and lo! the whole mass of bricks and mortar vanished, and I saw again that pleasant scene that I looked on more than 60 years ago.
What is now Derby-road was a beautiful country lane. You entered the lane over a stile - no fear then of traffic. On the west side was a high hedge, separating it from fields, across which ran a footpath under a bank, now Brintons-road. In early summer the hedge was gay with blossoming hawthorn and dog-roses, and later on with honeysuckle, and underneath it we made lovely bowers on hot sunny days. But there were nettles in the ditch, which we little ones soon found out when we fell into it. About half-way down, where is now the junction of Argyle-road and Derby-road, was another and higher stile. A little chap as I was then, I had great difficulty in climbing it, and I always associated it with the one that the old ladys pig would not get over and so delayed her homeward journey.

Next to the stile was Gordons Rope Works, which extended to St. Marys-road, where is now the Fire Station. On sunny days we could peer through the hedge and see the men at work amid the dancing motes in the shafts of sunshine which came through the windows. The rope-walk is now occupied by the playground of the Girls Grammar School.

Then came the high hedgerows which bordered Oakleys orchards, part of which stretched right away to St Marys-road; in another to the Antelope hedge, now Exmoor-road. What a splendid show the blossoms of the varied kinds of fruit tree made in spring, and how our mouths watered at the sight of the glistening fruit in the autumn. No wonder some of the bigger lads found the temptation sometimes too strong. Frequently the cleaner youths from the locomotive engine shed near by got into trouble for doing what boys in all ages appear to have done found that stolen apples are the sweetest, especially when they were on night-work. Below the orchards were more cultivated fields, through which ran a footpath with a turnstile at each end. The path, bordered by tall trees, led to the South Hants Hospital.

It was then, and for many years after, known as the Infirmary, and when it was built, not many years before the time I am writing of, people complained that it was too far out of town. The east side of the lane, separated from it by a low fence, was agricultural fields, stretching to the railway in summer green, and in the autumn golden brown with the growing corn. We youngsters used to pick the ears, and in eating the rubbed-out grain think we had a feast.

One scene that comes back vividly was that to be seen on Sunday nights in the summer, when people assembled there to see the excursionists returning to London. Northam Station did not then exist, but the train proceeded rather slowly. Most of the passengers were in open wagons, seated on stools, or standing in the crowded ones. Evidently most of them had been enjoying themselves not wisely but too well. Shouting and singing, they waved farewells to us, who were not slow to reply.

Let my readers return to Northam-road again and proceed over the railway bridge to Northam. On our left, below the house where I lived, were a number of houses of the Georgian or Early Victorian style, and on the right a hedgerow, both sides now being occupied by shops. Northam railway bridge was a narrow affair, with no pavement, and badly lighted. On the Northam side were fields of corn and pasture, farmed by Mr. Burridge.

Then came York-place and Oak-place, separated from the roadway by a high hedge, and here lived the aristocracy of Northam Mr. Mitchell, the architect; Mr. Dible, superintendent of the South-Western yard in Belvidere; and Mr. Samuel Stevens, the founder of the firm of Stevens and Sons. His house is now the Northam Conservative Club, and his yard behind it in Kent-street. In Oak-place lived Messrs. Napier, Baron, and Fairbairn, all officials of Day and Summers. All these wore the top hat and frock coat of that period.

The farm fields covered all that part now occupied by Radcliffe-road, and came up to the backs of the houses in Northam-road. The church was not built then, but the old church and schools lay between York-street and Clarence-street. The old school teachers houses are still standing. The eastern side of the road was built upon.

(Contributed bt Edwin Course)

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British Built Ships in the High Andes -- Gerald Davies

It is seldom that the Travel Sections of the National Press contain items of IA interest, save the odd words of encouragement to visit Ironbridge or Beamish, should you be in those parts of the country. However, earlier in the year, the Daily Telegraph travel pages contained a most interesting article on the YavariProject, which is aimed at restoring an 1860s-designed ship of British construction. Built to the orders of the Peruvian govern-ment, it has spent all its days on Lake Titicaca which, as we all know from our school geography, is the worlds highest expanse of navigable water.
This ship, together with its sister the Yapura, was commissioned from the Birkenhead shipyard of Laird Brothers in 1861, Britain being the leading builders of iron-clad ships in the mid 19th century. After assembly at the yard, the vessels were knocked down into 2,766 individual pieces (Ikea eat your heart out!) and in 1862 shipped out in kit form together with eight British engineers to the Peruvian port of Arica: this journey in those days of course involved rounding Cape Horn! From Arica the kits of parts were taken by train to a railhead at Tacna and thence by mule trains (each mule carrying a maximum load of 400lbs) up through the Andes passes to Puno on Lake Titicaca, where final assembly was undertaken. The mule trains each took about a month to reach the lake, so the process of assembly was very protracted and Yavari was launched on Christmas Day, 1970 some eight years after leaving the makers yard! ÒºÿYapura went into service the following year. tYavaria registered length of 135ft (41.15m), breadth 17ft (5.18m), maximum draught 8ft (2.44m) and 240 gross tonnage. Yapura is slightly smaller with a length of 128ft (39.01m) and gross tonnage of 200. 
The rôle for which these ships were intended, that of gunboats to patrol the lake and ward off incursions into Peruvian water by neighbouring Bolivia, was by then no longer a requirement. This was just as well as the guns with which they would have been armed had, in the meantime, been diverted for use in a war involving Spain! The Navy therefore reclassified the two ships as cargo vessels, to perform duties supplying the lakeside settlements with various merchandise and ferrying personnel to and fro as required. In the 1880s a British company was formed to operate these services until 1950, when the Yavari fell into disrepair and the job was taken on by road and air transport. The sister ship Yapura, being in somewhat better condition, was refurbished by the Peruvian Navy, which still owned both vessels, and, renamed the , became a hospital ship, taking medical supplies and personnel to the remote communities. It should be remembered, in relation to the great longevity of these two ancient vessels, that there is a very dry atmosphere in the high Andes and, at these altitudes, a lower atmospheric pressure, which results in lower levels of dissolved oxygen in the Lake waters. This of course means a much reduced rate of corrosion to the wrought iron hulls and superstructures.
In 1974 an Englishwoman, Meriel Larken, a direct descendent of Alfred Yarrow, who had originally set up as a shipbuilder on the Isle of Dogs and subsequently moved his business up to the Clyde (Yarrows now operates under the banner of BAe Systems), set out to find the Yavari, about which she had read some years earlier. On arrival at Puno she was unable to locate the ship, which had been renamed the Chucuito. A further visit some ten years later armed with more information enabled her to identify the vessel, which she was able to purchase for its scrap value of £3000.
Enlisting the assistance of Prince Philip, to give the scheme some credibility, she set up a Charity to restore the ship for tourism purposes: he had observed the derelict vessel in Puno in 1965 and was sympathetic to her ideas for restoration. With his help, various commercial and other organisations were encouraged to assist with cash or services and, to date, £200,000 out of an estimated £400,000 has been subscribed to prepare the ship for a passenger-carrying licence. Part of the restoration which had already been accomplished involved getting the 1913 240hp 4-cylinder Bolinder diesel engine in working order enabling the vessel to make its first sailing for around 40 years [this engine was a replacement, as originally both vessels were steam propelled]. To obtain further donations to complete the restoration, the ship is currently maintained as a floating museum and from time to time has been used as a film set, eg in the TV series Full Circle with Michael Palin. In his book to accompany the series, Michael said that the original steam engine, like La Pazs electricity supply, ran on llama dung. They had to collect fresh droppings at every port they put into. Of course it filled up most of the cargo hold, Meriel said. She hopes to put her paying guests where the dung was once stored.

When completed the Yavari will operate as a tourist ship, making two-day cruises across the lake to the Bolivian shores, with stops en route. In this role she will be competing with a 1920s steamship, the Oliantawhich is currently being refurbished by the Orient Express organisation. However, as the lake is some 4000 square miles in extent, there should be room for both of them and, with the growing popularity of holidays in the high Andes, the prospects are encouraging.In keeping with the age of IT, the Yavari Project has its own website - www.yavari.org - and has all the hallmarks of a well run business venture. We wish it every success and, who knows, some adventurous SUIAG member may become a passenger on the ship one day!

[Building details from International Register of Historic Ships by Norman J Brouwer, 1985]

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32ndSouth Wales and West Region Industrial Archaeological Conference Research, Recording and Regeneration--
Report by Tony Daffey
About twenty SUIAG members attended this event from a total attendance of about 150, which was a good effort, and the hall was full. But, oh, those plastic seats! We, who went in the minibus, had already suffered for our cause the buffers on the suspension seemed to be made of hardwood blocks. John Silman, as driver, did his best with the problem on what, otherwise, was a scenic drive supported by fine weather. The delegates were welcomed by the lady Chairman of Norton-Radstock Council, introduced by the Conference Chairman who read her name from a piece of paper that he hurriedly pulled from his pocket. Not very polite. The large projection screen was at floor level and could not be heightened, so most of the audience could only see the top third. The mid-nineteenth century hall was very attractive but the acoustics were not good and many speakers kept failing to use the microphone.

The first paper, on the Archaeology of the Somerset Coalfield, was read at breakneck speed by Shane Gould (AIA). His delivery was terribly garbled and came over rather like a young Stanley Unwin. The picture slides were mostly black and white, of hazy quality, and the excellent colliery plan slides were not explained properly. There used to be about 70 collieries in the Radstock area which were reduced to a handful after the National Coal Board took over. All these have now gone and there is virtually nothing left to see. The shortcomings of the talk sparked sufficient interest, to find out what it was alll about, to enable good sales of Shanes recently published book on the subject.

Bruce Hedge (Vale of White Horse IA Group) took us through a photographic survey and archive rescue of the Morland & Co Brewery at Abingdon, which was fascinating. Many of the rescued plans were undated, which did not make his task any easier.

Stuart Burroughs (Museum of Bath) called his talkJane Austen and the Engineers: Engineering in Bath, the Jane Austen reference being humorous, of course. In the 18th century, Bristol to Bath became navigable by river which, with the proximity of Bath stone, meant a massive growth in the building industry. Tramways were built to traverse the sides of the valley with the river used for lateral transport. In 1785 iron goods came to Bath which encouraged a large foundry to be built. Then followed the manufacture of steam engines, heavy lifting gear, heavy duty timing mechanisms and even, briefly, motor cars. A far cry from the citys Roman image. 

After a tasty buffet lunch and an inspection of the bookstalls, we had Tony Crouch (Norton-Radstock Council) speaking on the heritage-led regeneration of Radstock. Coalmining vanished from the basically small town in 1967 but it left behind an infrastructure. The town has its own Co-operative Society, which has never been taken over and the original, large, shop building still exists. A wonderful museum has been created in the old, refurbished, Market Hall building and there is a heritage railway planned for the now derelict but extensive remains of the two stations railway system. A £300,000 grant has been awarded, over three years, to enable a start on renovating the collection of historic shop fronts in the town centre using the original materials. A lot of fine work has already been done.

The final session concerned the repair of the 1803 Midford Aqueduct on the Somersetshire Coal Canal. This exercise must have been a complete study in frustration and we ended feeling really sorry for the enthusiasts involved. Briefly, to start, they had to produce a detailed account of the proposed works, a stone by stone drawing, solve problems of access and water ownership, plus badger and bat conservation, five of the six arches had failed, eight mortar and five different lime mixes were involved. Having found a good contractor, on a fixed price, work was well under way and then came the floods which brought down 140 tons of silt which had to be moved by hand. Then the second flood, then the freeze followed by the foot and mouth restrictions and, not to mention, an excavator was lost in the mud. Morale became very low, so they have shut up shop whilst they recuperate. All very sad, but they will survive.

We then had an absorbing two hours of walking around the town and its museum with a set of highly informed and enthusiastic guides. With the prospect of another bump, bump, bump return journey to Southampton we, nevertheless, put that thought out of our minds and determined to make a return visit, in a year or two, to do some further exploring, with knowledge gained from the talks, and to monitor progress on the extremely interesting town centre schemes.

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SERIAC 2001-- Report by Rosie Voller

SUIAG was well represented at the Conference, which was hosted by the Sussex Industrial Archaeology Society and held at Christs Hospital, Horsham on 31st March Most of the members took the Eastleigh minibus driven by John Silman who took us on the A272, one of my favourite country roads. After registration and coffee we all settled into the exceptional Theatre built in 1972 and able to seat 500. It put us in mind of The Globe Theatre in London.
The President of SIAS, Air Marshal Sir Frederick Sowrey, welcomed about 180 delegates and by that time, our own John Silman treated us to his talk on the subject ofb5Restoration work on some Hampshire sites. He told us about the restoration work carried out over many years by like-minded volunteers of SUIAG. The work included the recovery of several sets of water pumping equipment, the saving of a rare sewage pump and restoration of water mills as well as the restoring of a small brewhouse. He also showed slides of trams found in a very dilapidated state over the last 30 years, which are still being worked on to bring them back to pristine condition.
The next speaker was Nick Plumley, Curator of Christs Hospital Museum, who talked about The Building and Establishment of Christs Hospital Founded in 1553 by King Edward VI within the monastic building of Grey Friars in Newgate Street in London, this school suffered badly during the Great Fire. The school was rebuilt, influenced by Wren and Hawksmoor, and included the training of future sailors. By the end of the 19th century it was decided to move to an estate of 1200 acres near Horsham. The new magnificent school and buildings was built by 1902, very ahead of its time when the boys and very later the girls were moved in. It was interesting to note that many well known people were scholars at the school.
After a break for lunch, Denis Smith the Chairman and founder member of GLIAS talked about London Exhibitions: Structure and Heritage. He told us about the various financial spending problems, the design features and the number of work force needed to set up these exhibitions. Apparently the 1851 Great Exhibition was not very well accepted by the ordinary people. Built in Hyde Park, it was opened on 1st May and, after the Building Commission insisted it was taken down, was eventually moved to Sydenham. The ornate gates were saved, refurbished and installed in Kensington Gardens. Denis also talked about the 1862, 1908, 1924 and 1951 Festival of Britain and finally the recent 2000 Millennium Dome, which seems to have been treated similarly to the 1851 Exhibition. At the end of his talk it was concluded that the buildings to house these exhibitions have demonstrated structural ingenuity and have exploited new materials, as well as leaving us a heritage of infrastrucure.

The History of Gas Lighting was Christopher Suggs talk, whose family were involved with gas and lighting and its links with London. He talked about the development of the means of lighting, and the story of early street lighting from the early 1800s when it illuminated public thoroughfares. As more street lighting became the norm, it provided work to light and turn off these lamps which was what the lamp lighters did right up to the mid 1940s. The few gas lamps still in use around the country, including some at Buckingham Palace, are now replaced with automatic gas lighting.

The final speaker was Professor Alan Crocker, President of SIHG and the Surrey Archaeological Society, who talked about The Waltham Abbey Gunpowder Mills, which was originally scheduled to be opened to the public a few days before this conference until foot and mouth disease stopped this happening. Gunpowder was first produced at Waltham Abbey in the 1660s and it was only in 1787 that the mills were purchased by the Crown. From then on, the Royal Gunpowder Mills became the most important powder works in Britain and was at the forefront of technological developments internationally. After a period of relative quiet, the Crimean War 1854-56 revealed glaring deficiencies in British military supply and this, coupled with later fears of French invasion, led to massive expansion of the Mills from the mid 19th century. In the 1870s, reflecting significant increase in gun size, there was further expansion and evolution of processing facilities to accommodate the new moulded powder types. The new chemical explosives, nitroglycerine and nitrocellulose, and the new propellant cordite, which is a mixture of these, were developed during the latter half of the 19th century and there are substantial remains of this activity at the site. During the 20th century, Waltham Abbey was reponsible for research and development of high explosives including Tetryl, TNT and RDX, which was used in the bouncing bombs. The site was closed in 1991 and decontaminated by the MOD, which also provided funds to safeguard its future in perpetuity. A Heritage Lottery Fund grant was obtained to restore and interpret the site and to open it to the public. There are 300 structures, including 231 listed buildings. Imaginative exhibitions, films, interactive computer displays, etc, have been developed in several of the historic buildings and visitors will be free to explore much of the site unguided. It certainly sounds an interesting site to visit.

John Blackwell, Chairman of SIAS, closed the excellent programme, wishing everyone a safe journey home. Those of us who went by minibus would like to say a Big Thank You to our driver John Silman who ensured we enjoyed a safe journey after such an enjoyable day.

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Hampshire Mills Group - Rescue and& Restoration Section

John Silman

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Other jobs for Hampshire Mills Group members (and SUIAG Heavy Gang volunteers) have included more work taking out sluice gear from Pymore Mill, not wanted by the developers. This has resulted in several trips to Bridport. John Lovell (member of SUIAG and HMG) has kindly agreed to store this material against use in the future. The same volunteers have been removing calcification from the buckets of the wheel in Hockley Mill a hard and laborious job even with the aid of the groups compressor. Work has started on the restoration of a waterwheel-driven pump at a site in Timsbury close to an original bridge of the Andover & Redbridge Canal. We hope soon to replace some of the buckets on the wheel at Headley Mill, Bordon, but this will depend on obtaining sheets of Cor-Ten steel which is hard to come by.
National Mills weekend saw members of HMG at Hockley Mill and at Botley Mills. Regrettably visitors were few and far between mainly, we think, due to people still worrying about Foot and Mouth Disease.

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Today (22nd May) three of us were invited to inspect the mill on the Stratfield Saye estate of the Duke of Wellington. The Duke would like to restore the mill to working order and I must say it has some very interesting machinery left in it, notably three turbines, four pairs of Frenchbuhr (burr) stones, a German silk bolter and a (currently) maker unknown - but certainly very early - roller mill with porcelain rollers which might also be German or Swiss. We hope, later this year, to organise a visit to this site for HMG members. It is actually about 20 yards into Berkshire on the banks of the River Loddon.
Hampshire Mills Groups next meeting will be on 29th June at Whitchurch Silk Mill and will take the form of a barbecue on the lawns. New Members Welcome.
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Snippets from the local press and other notes .

Consolidated Catalina amphibian VP-BPS, which crashed in Southampton Water in 1998 and has been undergoing restoration at Lasham airfield since May 1999, was moved to its new base in a WW2 hangar at the former HMS Daedalus airfield at Lee-on-Solent on March 11th. The task of transporting the fuselage by road was carried out by 3 Royal School of Engineers from Minley (near Fleet), Hants. Another PBY-5A, N423RS, which was formerly owned by Greenpeace and had resided at Duxford for a few years, was being flown to Lee-on-Solent and will be overhauled before flying again. The two Cats are owned by Super Catalina Restoration and volunteers (even the aviation unskilled current volunteers include an accountant, a civil engineer and a local government officer) are welcome to join the small band. For membership details, contact P Rogers, Super Catalina Restoration, Lynchill Cottage, Mill Lane, Alton, Hants, GU34 2QH. Website is www.supercatalina.com (information from FlyPast, June 2001)

Repairs start on historic hangar: A five month refurbishment programme is underway to save a piece of aviation heritage. The Schneider Hangar at Calshot Activities Centre was badly damaged during the tornado of autumn 1999 and has been closed to the public ever since. The 72-year-old hangar, a listed building, will be re-clad, re-roofed and re-painted to restore it to is original condition, says Hampshire County Council, which owns and runs the centre. (

New Forest Post, 31/5/01)

Former bombs bounce back into history: The remains of two prototype dambuster bouncing bombs have been recovered after being discovered in the Fleet, near Abbotsbury, Dorset. The area was used to test the novel explosives which were dropped at low level from Allied aircraft to attack enemy targets. One of them has now been loaned to Weymouth Museum to help make up a new maritime display.(Ceefax 22/5/01)Heard it on the radio: At 16.30 GMT on 23 January 1901, the Knowles Farm Radio Station on the Isle of Wight exchanged signals with the new Marconi Lizard Radio Station, 196 miles away in Cornwall. At the time this was the furthest known distance that radio waves had travelled. To celebrate the 100th anniversary of this historic event, the National Trust and the West Wight Radio Society re-created the transmission on 23rd January this year, together with National Trust colleagues at the Lizard in Cornwall. Knowles Farm, the site of the original Marconi station, is now owned and administered by the National Trust. The site comprises two barns and three cottages one of which, Knowles Farm Cottage, once housed Marconi and the station staff. Today, the cottage is available for holiday letting by the National Trust. (National Trust News, Summer 2001)Bursledon Windmill celebrates: In May, Bursledon Windmill marked its tenth anniversary since re-opening after restoration. To mark the occasion pupils from Bursledon Junior School were invited to visit wearing Victorian costume. Ten years ago, pupils from the same school were the first school visitors. New museum for Romsey: In April,a new Heritage and Visitor Centre was opened in Romsey. The Victorian building at 13 Church Street has two rôles a tourist information centre in the front room while the back section and first floor is a Victorian museum, complementing the Tudor and Medieval buildings of King Johns House next door. Such famous names as Florence Nightingale and Lord Palmerston are featured, plus tools of turn-of-the-century Romsey and a room with period furniture. The centre is open from 10am to 4pm, Monday to Saturday, admission £2.50 for adults, £2 concessions and £1.50 for children. 

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Daily Echo

Rail station scheme faces time setback:
Plans to build a new railway station at Chandlers Ford could be delayed by at least 18 months because Railtrack does not have sufficient resources at present to carry out planned enhancements to the railway infrastructure due to essential upgrading of signalling following the Hatfield rail disaster. It could be 2003 before services are returned to Chandlers Ford. (
Daily Echo 2/3/01)
Unsafe dam forces key road closure

The B3046 road which passes over the dam at Alresford was closed y Hampshire County Council in January amid fears that the structure could collapse, allowing millions of gallons of water to flood nearby homes. Cracks had been spotted in the road surface and the closure was precautionary while surveyors checked it. A local parish councillor blamed the huge growth in the number of heavy lorries particularly from watercress packing plants in Old Alresford using the road. He said that you cannot have lorries using a dam that was built 800 years ago on chalk and faggots. The heavier than usual rainfall during the autumn and winter had increased the depth of water in Old Alresford Pond. 

Tail-enders

News from Coldharbour Mill:
Boiler House Repairs The work on the Combing Shed and Rope Race is complete and English Heritage has agreed that the surplus of their grant may be used to help restore the valley gutter of the Boiler House roof. This has been leaking for years just where visitors stand to view the boilers in operation! Work will commence soon and take about eight weeks. Meanwhile the Boiler House will shut for the interim but the Mill Engine Room will still be open [note: this was reported prior to the foot & mouth outbreak]. The volunteers are making strides in the awful job of cleaning the inside of the boiler ready for the Boiler Inspectors visit. (from romChronicles, February 2001, via Roger Hedge)
Seen on a plaque in Corporation Street, Stalybridge, Lancs: Remembering with pride Jack Judge who, in this street and building, was inspired to write and compose the immortal marching song Its a Long Way to Tipperary. He was also the first to sing it in public in the Grand Theatre opposite on Jan 31st 1912. The frontage, only, of the theatre survives incorporated into the surrounding and backing shops and offices. (via Roger Hedge)Reported in January by your editors friend who works at Old Sarum airfield near Salisbury that the airfield had been listed as a Heritage Site by English Heritage, as it is an unaltered former MOD Emergency Airfield. Some of the buildings were already listed. Have had no confirmation from official sources as yet. to convert a cowshed near Fawley into residential accommodation have been rejected for a second time. The Manor of Cadland had applied for permission to convert the shed claiming it would cover the cost of repairs to an adjoining barn which is a listed building. After the New Forest District Council turned down the scheme an appeal was lodged with 4ethe Dept. for the Environment, Transport & the Regions, but the DETR ruled that there were other ways of maintaining the listed barn. (
Daily Echo 2/1/01)
Hampshire heritage bosses are encouraging local residents to apply for grants. Two of the five categories are natural landscape (including barns) and industrial sites such as chimneys and canals. For details, the ormation line for Local Heritage Initiative is 0870 9000 401. (

Daily Echo15/1/01)

Special exhibition currently at Southamptons Tudor House Museum, running until Sunday August 18, spans five centuries of toys, dolls and games, including such items as a medieval doll, 1910 wooden rocking horse, 1850s German Noahs Ark and 20th Century games, Lego and Meccano.                                 Return to TOP

Book Reviews -- Gerald Davies

Wings over Water by David Oliver. Apple Press. ISBN 1.84092.152.8£12.99.
For anyone with an interest in aviation history and specifically that of those elegant machines now classed s products of a bygone age the large flying boats, this book provides a rare treat. The subtitle -A Chronicle of Flying Boats and Amphibians of the Twentieth Century - describes perfectly the comprehensive coverage of the subject provided. Maritime aircraft were closely associated with Southampton and the Solent, with two of the principal UK manufacturers being based there; Supermarine at Woolston and Saunders-Roe at Cowes. In addition, Imperial Airways (later BOAC) and later Aquila operated services from a specially built flying boat terminal in the Docks and the RAF maintained its flying boat base at Calshot for nearly fifty years. This book /should therefore be of particular interest to SUIAG members.
Commencing with the earliest designs of Glenn H Curtiss in the USA in the years preceding World War I, through the inter-war decades, when many countries developed flying boats to provide long range luxury travel, the book also describes the widespread exploits of flying boats by all participants in World War II and continues to cover the diverse uses of these aircraft up to the present day. Undoubtedly the heydays of the flying boat era in the Solent were in the 1930s and 40s, the former in civil transport roles and the latter in mainly military ith0operations. This was followed by a rapid and somewhat sad demise by the end of the 1950s.
With the widespread construction of larger airfields worldwide during the war and the development of large multi-engined land-based military aircraft, derivatives of which became available to the worlds airlines in the post-war years, it was inevitable that the flying boat, having inherent disadvantages in both performance and operational flexibility, would lose out. Although, as this book reveals, numerous designs and projects for flying boats were proposed, with enhanced performance utilising advances in both aerodynamics and hydrodynamics, few were developed beyond the prototype stage and the relevant programmes suffered early curtailment or cancellation. With the scrapping of the Saunders-Roe Princess flying boats and the cessation of maritime operations by BOAC and later Aquila Airways, together with the closure of the RAFs base at Calshot, by 1960 Southampton and the Solent areas regular links with waterborne aircraft were severed permanently.
As this book relates, the use of such aircraft did not die completely in the 1950s and continued in US naval operations during both the Korean and Vietnam wars. In fact the US Navys extensive range of large flying boats was not finally abandoned until the end of the 1960s. The Soviet Bloc also continued to design, develop and deploy very advanced flying boats for maritime operations right up to the early 1990s. In addition Japan, being essentially a maritime nation, has persevered with large turboprop flying boats in the military role; but such activities were small scale compared to the vast effort employed on land-based aircraft in the closing decades of h4the 20th century.The book identifies some 300 multi-engined flying boats as being in service today worldwide, which compares with the 400 to 500 in the late 1930s, regarded as the peak of the civil flying boat era. Todays machines are generally smaller and designed essentially to perform specific tasks for which they are ideally suited, eg firefighting and coastal anti-smuggling patrols.
This book provides a most interesting overview of the many designs of flying boat in both civil and military use throughout the whole of the last century. While it is not really a book for the aeronautical engineer, giving only minimal data on design parameters and specifications, it adequately describes the main features of each aircraft for the needs of the average enthusiast. There are inevitably a few minor errors in the text, but these have very little bearing on the subject. An excellent and very exhaustive range of photographic illustrations makes this a highly desirable book for anyone with an interest in these unusual aircraft.

Southampton - Portrait of a Maritime City by N Stanik and B Miles. Halsgrove Press.ISBN 1.84114.077.5 £16.95.

This book, essentially a collection of some 100 or so superb colour photographs of the City and its environs, is reviewed because it contains a number of pictures of local industrial buildings and constructions, eg Northam gasholders. Specifically, however, it has an excellent series of photographs of the Docks and the Waterside, giving a totally new perspective on scenes which will be familiar to all SUIAG members. The two authors, both graphic artists by profession, are residents of the Southampton area. They have been very selective in their choice of subjects to good effect and have succeeded in portraying the City in a manner not previously attempted. The captions to the photographs are succinct and provide adequate descriptions of the subjects, while the supporting text, introducing each section, puts the story of the City into a concise historical context. This book will make an excellent addition to anyones bookshelf.--

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